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Mother Choriza wrote in message <6038-36EDD710-68@newsd- 214.iap.bryant.webtv.net... ... Psycho was _base_d on a true story. The man's name was Ed Gween, (Gwen?). His crimes happened in the late forties, early fifties. Ed and his mother did own a run down motel on the outskirts of a town in central Wisconsin. (Central Wisconsin? What other TS goings on happens there?) Actually, there is no correlation to the two issues. Neenah, Wisconsin, is the home of one of the major companies in the paper tissue industry, Kimberly Clark, and its medical center has developed as a very well-respected facility completely independently of the small number of surgeries important to members of this group. One element of effective SRS is the ability to work with nerve bundles, as I suspect you know, and the replacement of severed fingers is a good way to learn the technique. There are pretty good medical technology staffs in such regions where the paper industry is clustered, the Western Pac NW, parts of the mountainous Southeast, Maine, the pine areas of Texas, Missouri and Arkansas, and Wisconsin. Neenah, as any locale with a lot of paper mills nearby, has a lot of severed limb accidents, especially fingers, as that is the injury de jure of paper workers. Incidently, it happens that one of the leading prationers of plastic surgery in the state lived in Neenah, a well-to-do region _base_d on a very profitable industry, where his patient sources could afford many of the services of a plastic surgeon. It turned out that a colleague of his had GID and asked him to be her surgeon. He agreed to investigate the matter, and later was the surgeon. From that, this part of his practice, which also includes a lot of plastic surgery, grew in the niche of interest to many here. <...Ed's mother encouraged Ed to take up taxidermy to supplement their meger income. Ed had always been a misfit, .... Ed was never charged with murder,(though there were suspicions), he instead was locked up in a mental hospital until his death in the late seventies. But, I wonder how this relates to the transsexual experience, as this case is of a man who may have been criminally insane but not a transsexual person. And in the telling of the story which may have inspired the director whose own sexuality may not have fit the norm of his time, and scenario writeres to produce a very different character developed to help in shocking an audience, I wonder if you are tring to tell us here that anyone who is a transsexual is criminally insane? I am sorry, but if that was your purpose, I must disagree. <Why did I retell this disgusting story? First to let Karen know when we are on the same page. Second, to remind you, gentle reader, that the history of TSs in America is not without some horrible stories. To maybe let you understand that this is how we are precieved by much of the population, so that we may not feed into it but rather change direction toward a more humane and less angry approach. Certainly, many would agree with you that we are not effective when we rant against the frustrations of our lives. And there certainly have been great _expression_s of such rage without the intended effect in some places, such as Oregon, or often here. Perhaps there is no way to really know if the indvidual you describe in the case you provided was that of a misunderstood individual who may have been now diagnosed as transsexual or a man whose sexuality was somehow twisted. There is no doubt that parts of the psychaitric profession used less than what we would now call humane, or even, effective treatment for many perceived disorders. GID, which was not even much of a legitimate area of study in the fifties, has been documented to have been treated with electroshock theapy and aversion training (it has been documented as as such in the seventies and as recently as the late eighties or early nineties at least one well-know center, actually), and there certainly could have been numerous, undocumented lobotomies performed on many unfortunate souls then as well. For those of us who did grow up during that time, knowing about some of the treatments of those who were unfortunate enough to have been sent to such centers, was a strong incentive to seek other outlets than professional help . Sometimes those outlets may have been antisocial; others undoubtedly met an end to their unhappy lives at their own hand or through high risk behavior. The advent of chemical and surgical treatment as it developed in the sixties may have been a much better way than that of the previous decades. But in the end, I disagree at the highest level, that I be placed among those whose actions could be seen as violent or ciminally insane nor manipulated by males seeking to dominate women. I think that coupling transsexuals, especially those who are M2F, as GG, seems to ignore our brothers who are going the other way, in such categories is polemical and meant to further marginalize us. Sallyanne
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